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Mattis, hi. I sent you an email or two to your yahoo.de address, but never heard back. Did you get anything from me? --Bill Croft, croft AT lightfield DOT com

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Mattis, hi.

I found your wiki and postings on the Skype boards regarding long distance improvisation. Since I’m a vocalist the MIDI idea is not really possible and the other approach (“one-measure” delays) also is problematic.

I take it that you have kind of given up on Skype because of the latency.

What about a very simple telephone headset idea with in-country phone lines? Isnt that the best in terms of latency? Of course bandwidth sucks, but 4 or 5 KHz is better than nothing. Have you tried the telephone idea, perhaps with conference line services? Or in the U.S. here, you can setup impromptu conference chain calls with no difficulty or expense.

Other musicians have written about Apple’s iChat, I could forward you those links. I’m a Linux guy myself. But use Windows too. Wish I had a Mac, I was a Mac developer in a prior lifetime.

--Bill

MattisManzel:
Hihi, just wrote you this mail after not having checked my mail for some days.

moin Bill,

Nice you wrote. Hasn’t been going on much around world-jam-wiki, true. I’m completely into developing the wiki-net and care for a couple of dozens wikis - still I’d like very much to pick up on the idea. Music remains the most easy to translate language and is the only one indeed global.

SamRose, a bright guy on community-wiki, a musician as well, showed interest in the world-jam-wiki a while ago, he mentioned midi - so I added midi. It would be possible. The original idea was sheer voip.

Midi makes me shiver, remembering the 80ies, entering our guitar-player’s room and he goes: “Don’t turn on the light! I’m just saving!” C64 times. And the computer crashes on stage, lovely!

We made one session on skype that was really cool. We played pretty free from the beginning, the latency semt not too disturbing to me. I didn’t ever get ninjam running on linux, evite windows and was too busy with the wiki-net to get back into music recently. I get a kick from the idea of an internet radio streamed online jam session under a CC license. There must be more musician-geeks around who would like to drive this idea forewards.

Id actually very much like to use the talk on the wiki instead of email.

As a former mac developer you probably know someone who can help on a problem I think is urgent. You probably heard of subEthaEdit, a mac app, it was the first collab-editor. Collab-editors are like the software we are looking for on world-jam-wiki but for text. Realtime. You login from wherever in the world and there are as many cursors on the document as participants. Everybody can write whereever and has a different background color when typing, so you can tell who wrote what. There is a wonderful open source cross-platform collab-editor now called gobby. The serious drawback is that the mac installation is kind of a horror-trip, 800 MB download and you need 3 Gib of free disk space. To skrink, simplyfy and propperly explain it would help a lot.

The idea to use ordinary telephone is brilliant btw. But it gets exensive when jamming transcontinental and I’m not sure about the letancy then. No, I didn’t try that yet.

Anyhow. I leave you alone now. :) Thanks again and greetz from Italy.


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