The day-page-set for the talk in the ‘wiki-net’
Read the talk, explained.
The talk in which wikis do we listen to? Who is listening to the talk in the ‘wiki-net’? See the
wiki-net talk.
one big stone soup
MattisManzel:
A nice metaphor for collab - everybody gives something, all enjoy the result - is the stone soup. CapnDan pointed me to it, thx. I do not know of a similar German tale. Someone does? See en-wikipedia - stone soup.
intentions for renaming pages
MattisManzel:
Certain pages in the wiki-net have to be renamed which unfortunately causes a lot of work.
The current way of naming pages starting with hive, … in the list-wikis has to be changed so that the hive is already specified in the plain page name. A few examples:
Currently but not sufficient [en]
It has be be changed to
Or [fr]
which has to be changed to
Or [de]
which has to be changed to
Else the pages starting with wiki-net … should be renamed - for beauty’s sake (the strength of the wiki-net) and to make things work in French (another strength of the wiki-net). A few examples:
In German [de]
Nevertheless it should be changed to
In English [en]
Nevertheless it should be changed to
As in French [fr] neither
Instead it should be
To add even more beauty it should be [[net_clips_about_the_wiki-net?]] instead of net clips wiki-net and [[Mµs_containing_wikinet?]] instead of Mµs wikinet and [[groups_about_the_wiki-net?]] instead of groups wiki-net.
I’ll send a message in a bottle when I’m done.
campaign-wiki-planet
MattisManzel:
Alex is doing interesting stuff in the campaign-wiki-planet. As many times before I don’t understand. But the aggregations he creates feel like handled similar to the instant shared local names here, hm. I include into the local page 'wiki-net' - campaign-wiki-planet.
post to skype via ping.fm
Mattis Manzel:
Looking at the possibilities ping.fm offers - ping.fm is kind of the ignition distributor to pass changes to our soup further into multiple web-services - I realize that it has a posting with skype option. A very small number of people might forgive me when I try that out. Skype is not open source software.
Ok, that works, but not the way around I hoped it would. Instead I can send a text message from the skype account ‘wiki-net’ (WikiNetWiki) into ping.fm. I did actually send the text useless test message from skype - ‘wiki-net’ to see it work and deactivated the connection again. Probably the soup updates as text messages sent to the skype account might have made sense? This other way around it surely doesn’t.
The posting groups in ping.fm is another thing to be tried out.
inclusion of the hive-all-changes-feeds into the open-wiki
Mattis Manzel:
The open-wiki includes the hive-all-changes-feeds nicely
See also the merge of the different wiki-feeds on the page
socnode / dango
Mattis Manzel:
Interesting and probably of use for the wiki-net. The page socnode.org - Why? sounds pretty wiki-netish to me. Probably that’s the wiki-node? At least as far as the name is concerned it would fit. Thanks RadomirDopieralski for the hint to socnode.org.
infopedia inserts wiki screenshots into their soup
Interesting experiments with soup.io on http://infopedia.soup.io/. They insert screenshots. I have to look at it.
delicious, everybody’s bookmarks for ‘wiki-net’ - front - face
Mattis Manzel:
delicious, everybody’s bookmarks for 'wiki-net' - front - face
Might be worth an own page. Everybody’s bookmarks for any page in the ‘wiki-net’ - not only for the page front - face - would be better, actually.
2009-08-29:
delicious, tag wikinet
ting, a day page set. To do.
Mattis Manzel:
Not to forget - there have been so many new discoveries almost every day recently - make ting a day page set. I uploaded the icons, the rest is to do.

Well, not quite all is to do, some is already on collab-editor-wiki - tings.
jabber / gTalk
Mattis Manzel:
It seems pretty obvious, just I don’t find the right settings yet. Add update@identi.ca to the buddy list of WikiNetWiki@gmail.com. I’ve done that, update@identi.ca is in there, the button is green. In the IM settings of identi.ca - 'wiki-net' add the mail address. Done. It says “Awaiting confirmation on this address. Check your Jabber/GTalk account for a message with further instructions. (Did you add update@identi.ca to your buddy list?)”. Yes. There is mail from update@identi.ca but the confirm link takes me to the google mail loging window. Logging in it says the link has expired.
Gotto look at this from outsides Linux. Your OS is not fully supported. Wtf.
Some trying out later: No success: 'wiki-net', Melbourne-wiki, Greenland-wiki.
Success: odd-wiki-list. Soup updates should be on jabber / gTalk OddWikiList@gmail.com. The odd-wiki-list has no facebook account (yet). The other three have one and they are connected to it. Maybe that’s the obstacle? Disconnecting them from their accounts though doesn’t help.
But logging in to identi.ca with facebook instead of the username does help. The Stuttgart-wiki supplies soup updates on jabber / gTalk, address StuttgartWiki@gmail.com.
naming pages
Mattis Manzel:
Sorry, but I have to explain that to myself.
Every wiki has a page full changes and wiki complete. They provide the full-changes-feed and the wiki-complete-feed. The soup groups: soup group - 'wiki-net', full changes and soup group - 'wiki-net' complete.
That applies also for the list-wiki of a hive.
odd-wiki-list - full changes and odd-wiki-list - wiki complete. The pages provide the odd-wiki-list - full-changes-feed and the odd-wiki-list - wiki-complete-feed. The soup groups: soup group - odd-wiki-list, full changes and soup group - odd-wiki-list complete.
The list-wiki in addition aggregates all wikis of the hive it sits in.
[[odd-wiki-list_-_hive,_all_full_pages?]] and odd-wiki-list - hive, all wikis complete. The pages provide the [[odd-wiki-all-full-pages-feed?]] and the odd-wiki-all-wikis-complete-feed. The soup groups: soup group - odd-wiki, full pages and soup group - odd-wiki, all wikis complete.
The whoRthey-wiki aggregates the list-wikis.
whoRthey-wiki - one big full change and whoRthey-wiki - one big wiki complete. The pages provide the one-big-full-change-feed and the one-big-wiki-complete-feed. The soup groups: soup group - one big full change and soup group - one big wiki complete.
The Mµ-feed #WikiNet provided by the soup group - Mµs tag WikiNet is read by feedburner. The result from feedburner (the settings to smart feed) is read by twitterfeed passing it on to identi.ca which passes it into twitter. The twitterfeed connections currently have been removed for house cleaning purposes.
I might take the detour via feedburner for all feeds.
In German:
Stuttgart-wiki - Neues auf ganzen Seiten und Stuttgart-wiki - wiki komplett. Die Seiten stellen das Stuttgart-wiki - Neues-auf-ganzen-Seiten-feed und das Stuttgart-wiki - wiki-komplett-feed bereit. Die soup groups: soup group - Stuttgart-wiki, ganze Seiten und die soup group - Stuttgart-wiki komplett.
Dies trifft auch für das Listen-wiki eines Nests zu.
odd-Listen-wiki - Neues auf ganzen Seiten und odd-Listen-wiki - wiki komplett. Die Seiten stellen das odd-Listen-wiki - Neues-auf-ganzen-Seiten-feed und das odd-Listen-wiki - wiki-komplett-feed bereit. Die soup groups: soup group - odd-wiki-list, full pages und soup group - odd-wiki-list complete.
Zusätzlich versammelt das Listen-wiki alle wikis des Nests, in dem es sitzt.
[[odd-Listen-wiki_-_Nest,_alles_ganzes_Neues?]] und odd-Listen-wiki - Nest, alle wikis komplett. Die Seiten stellen das [[odd-wiki-alles-ganzes-Neues-feed?]] und das odd-wiki-alle-wikis-komplett-feed bereit. Die soup groups: soup group - odd-wiki, all full changes und soup group - odd-wiki, all wikis complete.
Das whoRthey-wiki versammelt die Listen-wikis.
[[whoRthey-wiki_-_eine_grosse_ganze_Veränderung?]] und whoRthey-wiki - ein grosses wiki komplett. Die Seiten stellen das [[eine-grosse-ganze-Veränderung-feed?]] und das ein-grosses-wiki-komplett-feed bereit. Die soup groups: soup group - one big full change und soup group - one big wiki complete.