WikiEquator
Myrtone:Quick question about site policies, I do condiser editors here to inccocent until they prove guilty, do you assume honesty. I wonder, how would you deal with, eg PersonalAttacks?, LegalThreats?, etc. Do you spread WikiLove?. Also, my understanding is that Today’s Talk exists in the WikiNow (or more correctly, in the BlikiNow?). What exactly are the differeces between WikiCulture and BlikiCulture?, are the both similarly distictive, even if each is in it’s own way.
MattisManzel, 2006-11-23: Hi Myrtone, thanks for the guts to write on this page. There is no BlikiCulture?. In spring 06 I dropped on the css Laurent Lunati wrote for the fete-d'internet-wiki and I liked it a lot and began to experiment with it. In the following months I made a couple of dozens of wikis using and adapting the css and developed a model for a syndication-based exchange of information amongst neighboring wikis called wiki-net. I did not care about motivating contributors as I had something in mind that needed to be shaped, it took a while and was a lot of work. Only MarkDilley once commented something - unfortunately on the MessagesFromOddWiki - a communication page for the entire odwiki-hive - I moved it to a day-page, Mark got that wrong and didn’t continue to write. So yes, WikiLove? - wiki-Woodstock was a pointer in that direction some time ago already. WikiLove?, yes. But there aren’t but some ghost-villages ‘til now. Ours are the only human voices in them nowadays, kinda 
Personal attacks, legal issues, I heard about that. Let’s see. Maybe it isn’t quite as bad as many assume.
When I started with wiki on Meatball not really having understood about the page-history yet I hated not to know when something was written (after having understood about the page-history it was still unpractical). A three year old thought that was overcome long ago has the same presence as a brandnew one. And to find out who is speaking (the most important information probably) I had to jump to the end of the contribution and then back to the beginning to start reading it. In verbal offline-communication you see who is speaking or you can tell where the words you hear come from before understanding the contents. I’m just proposing some changes I personaly concider improvements and I’m not very successful doing so, know?
Actually wiki-net: wiki-net-server is another proposal. Not the contents (k, that too) but the structure of the page.
The way it is typically done on wiki today means: The more talk is added (and people tend to add talk instead of refactoring the document mode) the more distant (physically in scrolling distance) the two “hot zones” of a page get. The hot zones are: the document mode on top (often outdated and insufficiently cared for and therefore not really hot anymore) and the end of the page (you reach if after endless scrolling). On my proposal-page the hot zones are close to the equator of the page. The old talk is deep down on it, the new thoughts are right below the condensed document mode. Maybe one could easily get used to that and take advantage of it? (wheel-mice would last longer for example).
New ideas are well placed on today’s talk. Answers to issues from past days - usually within the 7 day range - threads don’t get too old, so they are still relatively close to the equator - add at the end of the respective day-page and for politeness-reasons you add a day-stamp, so people see you answered some days later. When a thread gets older than a week it will likely be moved to its own page (or even sub-day-page-set). It’s also useful to find titles for day-pages “preparing” them for being a proper wiki-page early. Day-pages are better memorizable when subtitled.
Btw, (as you’re one of the Melbourne-wiki folks) I realize there is seemingly a certain chauvinism calling the deviding line between document mode and thread mode the “equator”. Explicitely: Northern-hemisphere / document mode is n o t better than southern-hemishere / thread mode. Both are neccessary and together shape a page / planet earth.
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Yes I am one of the Melbourne Wiki folks. I would like to know, if us MelbourneWiki-folks could use this site as our message board. -Myrtone-
MattisManzel: Sure. I mean not the Mattis-Manzel-wiki, but a Melbourne-wiki on oddwiki.
Go to Main:Startup type Melbourne, click go and you got it. http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/Melbourne/HomePage will be the url. If you like, gimme some hours to blikify and wiki-netify it. If you want to do it (or something else) yourself, fine enough. First Mediwiki / Oddmuse- hybrid, hehe.
Likely you just want a message board - that’s what you wrote
. Just a talk so to say. Should be possible. And everbody whereever and whenever can copy interesting threads on the message board over to the Melbourne-wiki. A very short explanation on syntax differences between Mediawiki and Odmuse is obligatory. I think it’s good when people learn foreign languages.
I’m not quite sure how to blikify or wiki-netfy it, remember I am not that familiar with OddMuse and am used to MediaWiki. So maybe you could start it off. Myrtone
MattisManzel: No. You have to. For magical reasons. Just the bare creation of the wiki. After that it’s different. Follow the advices I gave you above please. It’s fun and won’t take you longer than a minute. Thanks for creating your wiki.
Sorry, but I don’t really understand css that well, I tried to copy the contents of yours, but it look too much like your bliki for now. Myrtone
MattisManzel: Ecco: Continuing on Melbourne-oddwiki: talk / 2006-12-01.