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The use that can be made of any software, depends on the functions that have been provided by its developers. From the perspective of a new user, these functions need to provide sufficient value that the user is incented to start to learn more about how the system could be used. Given that many different programs provide similar functions, a new system’s best capabilities should be reviewed quickly to determine if the new program is sufficiently attractive to justify the time a new user must invest in learning how to use it.

New users should be shown the immediate (“low hanging fruit”) benefits.

make this a MicroContent block.


The rest of these page segments provide for some preliminary tests and functional capability notes:

TransClusionBhe:TransClusion = editThisPage.
  • 070718 worked on this page’s transcluded content a bit to confirm the prettyLinks work.
  • TransClusionTqu

prior...
  • 2007-03 …
    • This page is so complicated that TransclusionHwoStyle was created to focus on the HwoStyle issues related to TransClusion.
    • It may be effective to remove the …Tests to a separate page as well.
      • 070317 this should be supported with a …M(ap) navigation bar.
  • 2007-02- …
  • 070219 finally used CommunityWiki successfully!
    • TransClusion generally works within Oddmuse systems.
      • It even worked with the SamRose wiki hive!
      • There are improvements to the rendering that could be incorporated, but it is quite useable for my purposes.
  • 070218 added an internal wikiHive example.
    • Try using the InterMap to reduce the URL and try using Near… features.
  • 061230: Linked here from …
    • Create content here that makes the link worth while.
      • this can be copied into the site where the reference exists, if that site needs to be self-contained (since it is likely to be removed to another server, per Lion.)
  • review if it is possible to use TransClusion between the subSites in this hive.
  • create a TransClusion Map here that links to some of the existing definitions.
  • this page likely needs to be broken up into MicroContent as it grows since it is probably an Object within other local pages that do not need all of the accumulating material.

This segment consists of some temporary WiP notes …

Learn_more...

    • This learnMore design, was (of course) predicated in the assumption that the <aggregate …> action would work.
      • Since this seems to be problematic in a TransCluion?,

Test Area ...

from Social Synergy (SamRose)



TransClusion from SSW test …

 <include "http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/?action=browse;id=HansWobbe;raw=1">

This HansWobbe page is just a placeholder for convenient local content, at this time.

Temporary Discussion

Hans, mirror or transclude as you see fit. Also, feel to free to not use http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/ObmWikiCenterEn/FrontPage if you so desire.

http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/ObmWikiCenterEn/FrontPage is more for meta-discussion about WikiHive issues. This particular wiki http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/FrontPage is for TheoryBuilding, and aggregating theory from ither wikis, around OpenBusinessModel contepts. Although it is also fine to strike up a conversation in any page here, etc.

And, feel free to create a namespace wiki here for any project related to OpenBusinessModel concepts, if you desire to do so. – SamRose

Sam…

Thank you for your kind offer of assistance and your obvious tolerance. I’ll try to figure out how I can fit in (and contribute) as effectively and efficiently as possible.

– HansWobbe.



from Community Wiki ...



Edit.TransClusionHwoTests TransClusionHwoTests

  • This first page segment will appear as an Abstract in any page that names the page in an <aggregate …> action (e.g. HansWobbe).
  • Note that …
    • the “Learn more …” makes it possible to simplify the standard headings used in the bliki.
      • This may remain unused in order to maximize raw text portability.
    • the …?action… strings can be stored externally, making goToAndEdit a single click.
    • this transclusion does break the included Calendar markup.
      • investigate if this can be fixed by simply changing the sequence.
...HwoBlogTagCloudN...
  • The title’s use of a table does not get rendered as ‘centered’ at CW, but the table outline does appear, providing some additional indication that this page is a TransClusion.
  • Remove the notes explaining the evolving style of the HwoTags in this bliki, here, from their other locations.
    • delay this until after at least a day during which this TransClusion appears to be rendered properly.
  • Note that…
    • This page’s name (which uses the prettyLink markup) is effectively rendered as a link in wrapping oddmuse sites.
  • ??
    • the following learnMore ‘prettyLink’ markup is effectively rendered at Wc:HansWobbe (but that the refresh problem may remain in effect.)
  • Wrh:ToDay - this does not get rendered at the receiving site in spite of being a valid InterMap entry.

This page appears in Wc:2007-03-10_HwoToDo


end of TransClusionHwoTestsAbstractSegment /.


EditThisPageTransClusionHwoTests{…}

HansWobbe (Hwo) is currently (2007-03 & 2007-02) using this page for a few tests.

  • Try adding a Transclusion from the bliki, to the first segment of this page that is in turn an <aggregate …> to HansWobbe.
  • Preliminary conclusions …
    • External URL TransClusion works, but Link support cannot be proven, just within this environment.

TransClusion (external) test

Tests from …

  • bliki
  • datafix - demonstrate that a raw text file can be included successfully, but …

include from bliki

Working version of an include of Hwo:HwoBlogTagCloudN …

...HwoBlogTagCloudN...
  • The title’s use of a table does not get rendered as ‘centered’ at CW, but the table outline does appear, providing some additional indication that this page is a TransClusion.
  • Remove the notes explaining the evolving style of the HwoTags in this bliki, here, from their other locations.
    • delay this until after at least a day during which this TransClusion appears to be rendered properly.
  • Note that…
    • This page’s name (which uses the prettyLink markup) is effectively rendered as a link in wrapping oddmuse sites.
  • ??
    • the following learnMore ‘prettyLink’ markup is effectively rendered at Wc:HansWobbe (but that the refresh problem may remain in effect.)
  • Wrh:ToDay - this does not get rendered at the receiving site in spite of being a valid InterMap entry.

This page appears in Wc:2007-03-10_HwoToDo


Attempt 1, Hwo:DiiGo, …

 This failure is noted since it shows that the "raw" parameter is needed.
 <include "http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/HansWobbe;id=DiiGo">

include from datafix

This ‘janus.datafix.com\hwo\test.dcn’ file is a test of the ability to import text from a URL.

  • 070718 - confirmed that pretty links work Bh:ToDay.
  • http://www.datafix.com - long form URL addresses are rendered as links.
  • Mb:RecentChanges shows that InterMap references are not rendered as links.
    • http://www.communitywiki.org/en/RecentChanges
    • Confirm the environments within which this may reasonably work.
      • try using an entry from the CommunityWiki InterMap
      • try using an entry from my InterMap in the wikiHive.
    • Is the InterMap reference rendered, given that it is a LocalNames example?
  • Let’s keep it simple as possible.

http://janus.datafix.com/hwo/test.dcn is imported, but fails to render the CamelCale links (e.g. the LocalNames instance).

 <include "http://janus.datafix.com/hwo/test.dcn">

Use the …aggregate… technique to create an effective summary of the CWB pages?

  • investigate ZergCreep to ensure I fully understand the implications of ‘aggregate’.
  • This becomes an interesting form of internal TransClusion.
    • Can I create some specifications that could be used to extend the function to provide some control over the block of text that is selected by the ‘aggregate’ function?


within a Hive is easy ...

Transclusions among Oddmuse WikiHives? are quite easy to create as is evident in …

  • (rendering is still a bit of a problem, though this may be relatively easy to fix)

MattisManzel/AgendaPages? works. Simply remove the leading space.

 <include "http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/MattisManzel?action=browse;id=AgendaPages;raw=1">

 <include "http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/HansWobbe?action=browse;id=PEST;raw=1">

TransClusion (start) ...

Some difficulties that are apparent in this page, include…



  • The Oddmuse software will include text into Cw:CommunityWiki from this site and from accessible external files.
  • would it make sense to use both the text and the raw keywords?
 <include text "http://janus.datafix.com/hwo/test.dcn;raw=1">
 <include "http://janus.datafix.com/hwo/test.dcn;raw=1">
  • this failed…
  • and still does.


This Wp:Bliki, being based on the OddMuse Ww:WikiEngine, provides a powerful implementation of this concept. See Om: Aggregate, …

Notes:

  • ‘Edit.pageName’ is needed rather than editThisPage, for pages that are transcluded.
  • One of the MicroContent benefits can be enhanced by using TransClusion to incorporate blocks into various different contexts.
    • Stress the point that the most recent version is ‘evergreen’, but that Version control can be used to resurrect ‘as of’ versions.
    • Since nested transClusion is possible, it becomes easy use intermediate pages to wrap blocks with LocalNames.

An included Table as a navigation aid...

A small example, using the local HansWobbeM (MicroContent) page to create a type of navigation menu…


Including material from a URL (with some unexpected results)...

urlIncludeStart

This ‘janus.datafix.com\hwo\test.dcn’ file is a test of the ability to import text from a URL.

  • 070718 - confirmed that pretty links work Bh:ToDay.
  • http://www.datafix.com - long form URL addresses are rendered as links.
  • Mb:RecentChanges shows that InterMap references are not rendered as links.
    • http://www.communitywiki.org/en/RecentChanges
    • Confirm the environments within which this may reasonably work.
      • try using an entry from the CommunityWiki InterMap
      • try using an entry from my InterMap in the wikiHive.
    • Is the InterMap reference rendered, given that it is a LocalNames example?
  • Let’s keep it simple as possible.

urlIncludeEnd

  • Include of text from external URLs.
    • This LocalNames reference shows that it is a valid LinkPattern? in this namesSpace.
    • Try using an explicit URL.
  • A text (un-rendered) form is also available, as shown by …

textIncludeStart

This 'janus.datafix.com\hwo\test.dcn' file is a test of the ability to import text from a URL.
* 070718 - confirmed that pretty links work [http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/HansWobbe/ToDay Bh:ToDay].
* http://www.datafix.com - long form URL addresses are rendered as links.
* Mb:RecentChanges shows that InterMap references are not rendered as links.
** http://www.communitywiki.org/en/RecentChanges
** Confirm the environments within which this may reasonably work.
*** try using an entry from the CommunityWiki InterMap
*** try using an entry from my InterMap in the wikiHive.
** Is the InterMap reference rendered, given that it is a LocalNames example?
* Let's keep it simple as possible.

textIncludeEnd


Rough notes:

  • 061109 edit to trigger the reload of this page, after editing the external text.
  • The HansWobbeM example uses <hr>s to frame its content.
    • It is possible to include the <hr><hr> delimiters within the transcluded page.
    • There are likely to be cases when the ‘frame’ should be external to the TransClusion.
  • This page, being a TransClusion within at least one other, uses headings as an internal frame.
  • The use of CSS will probably create a more effective solution.
  • This page does requite an explicit edit in order to refresh the ‘include’ text.
    • Can this also be achieved with a browser Refresh action?
  • It does not appear to be possible to nest a TransClusion within a Table cell.
    • Illustrate the value of this by posting a screen grab.
      • Perhaps a working html version can be created.
 <include "http://communitywiki.org/odd/OddWikiCenter?action=browse&id=OddWikiChat&raw=1">
  • Mattis example

TrasnClusion ... (end)

InterMap ...

InterMap entries require “exactly” one leading space. from … http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/2005-03-26

make this a MicroContent block.

Other ...

Previous pages that need to be cleaned up, include:

This edit did not seem to have any effect. At least, it did not show in the recent changes. There is likely a delay of some type. Event more likely is the fact that I marked it as a minor edit.

preliminary evaluation notes:

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