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As of 2007-05-24, the RnA? oddmuse Wc:WikiHive has achieved operational status.


This page, and its related pages, anticipates that there may be enough interest emerging in collaborating to build a more robust infrastructure, that it makes sense to organize the supporting thoughts. It is very much a WiP, which makes a Summary a ‘rhetorical’ question, at this stage.

Temporary Discussion


BlikiHostingOffer

Hans, I just wanted to clarify that, for the short term, if you are interested in getting your own BlikiNet (or WikiHive) going now, I know that if we host this on my gridserver that it will not dominate the resources of that server. Just wanted to come right out and say that in case you were waiting for me to actually offer this. I would charge a partial hosting fee, and a few hours for set up, domain mapping, etc.

Maybe it would be worthwhile for us to chat about this on the phone first, just to accelerate (my) understanding what you are looking for right now? --SamRose


Sam:

Thank you for taking the time to make this offer. I have been considering this suggestion for quite some time and do appreciate your initiative in this matter.

  • I agree that we should discuss this, and I’ll try to get ready to do so, as quickly as possible.
    • I’ll likely start by collecting my thoughts in this environment, just so I make the best possible use of your time.
    • When it becomes apparent that I’ve thought things through enough, we can switch to email or to voice.
    • Based on my current work load, I expect that will likely be early next week, assuming that may be convenient for you.

HansWobbe

P.S. Did you notice that Alex posted regarding related issues in the MAIN area?


[070309] (confirm that the use of the WxWikiServer Footnote markup is benign in this environment.)

  • Is it really necessary to add these date stamps since the information can be derived from the Diffs.
  • A number of these …hostingOffer thoughts are pertinent within the SamRose OcBm? context and could be incrporated. [[2007-03-13_hostingWhB?]]

copied from CommunityWiki/... (Wc:...)

[new:DavidCary:2007-02-14 02:54 UTC] I’m glad Wikiindex is back online. For any wiki other than wikiindex, perhaps putting contact information in its wikiindex entry would be a good idea. Or would http://Aboutus.org/ be a better place?

[new:HansWobbe:]

[new:DavidCary:2007-02-14 02:54 UTC] Good points.

SamRose:

Hans, just so you know, BlikiNet or WikiHive is just a matter of wiki configuration and a choice of content style sheet. You can actually have both under the same roof, as you see with OddWiki.

I can host this for you, if you’d like, and I can even set up a “Pilot” Hive today, in fact. We can talk about costs here, or on http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/HomePage

A few questions (you may not know the total answer, but at least we can get the ball rolling on designign this for you :) ): Do you want the Wikis openly editable, or closed (pw to edit)? What list/kinds of features are looking for?

Also, MicroContent and TransClusion should be no problem. I have just now really wrapped my head around your idea of collaborating via MicroContent. I am very intrigued by this, and would love to experiment with you to develop the ideas more. Plus, it would be neat to eventually make actual MicroFormats part of this MicroContent. Although, right now the only MicroFormats supported by OddMuse are xfn and rel-tag via tagging module. I think Alex is working on hCard. I would also like to see hCalendar.

DavidCary: I am also interested in your idea. Although, I wonder if we can drag people like Alex into being interested as well, since implementing this will require some coding to the wiki engine itself?

Seems like there some different ways that it could be accomplished. An auto-mirror might be a kind of simplier way to at least get the idea off the ground, though. Seems like you would have to install the correct wiki scripts for each engine on the server. So, I we would all need to install OddMuse to serve OddMuse wiki pages, MoinMoin for MoinMoin, etc.

Or, OddMuse could maybe be written to access pages from many sources. Hmmm…this will probably be a very big undertaking either way. But, it’s a cool idea and I am interested in it.

I have thought about this mirroring idea. it led me to another thought: that people can cluster their servers together to act like one big server (quoted from http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/2007-02-20_Talk):

This whole thing also makes me think about how Google distributes, mirrors, and serves it's search data. Also known as the Wikipedia:Google_File_System (GFS).

I have heard of ways to take different co-located Apache webservers and combine them into a distributed serving cluster. This is, I think, what we are really talking about here. UltraMonkey may be one sultion. But I have no experience setting that up. Although, that doesn’t mean we could not experiment with it and see what we can come up with.

See also:

http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/software/index.html

It would be interesting to have a conversation with Linux/UNIX admins who’ve already had experience with LinuxVirtualServer? to see what recommendations or feedback they might have.

UltraMonkey? is interesting, because it can cluster servers with any operating system to gether. This seems like one of the best ways to go about doing this, to me.

Also, for mirroring, this looked interesting: http://www.supersparrow.org/ss-0.0.0/ /.

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