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http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/CollectiveProblemSolving?2007-02-23

There was an exchange between KeithHopper and LionKimbro on AboutInquiry a while back, that is very related to CollectiveProblemSolving.

The idea that LionKimbro seemed to be alluding to was sort of a InquiryNetwork, weaving together many different groups and communities to follow an inquiry process over a substantial period of time.

This is an idea that I’d like to explore, too, and I think that CollectiveProblemSolving is the place to do it.

I’ve seen some recent activity in this area, like DroppingKnowledge (http://www.droppingknowledge.org/).

Also, KeithHopper mentioned on AboutInquiry, the idea of from WisdomOfCrowds, that you can AggregateKnowledge. One way that people are doing this is with PredictionMarkets.

There is a difference between the WisdomOfCrowds and CollectiveIntelligence:

http://socialsynergy.typepad.com/social_synergy/2006/12/wisdom_of_crowd.html

One idea I have been thinking about is to carry on a multi community inquiry using both CollectiveIntelligence, and the WisdomOfCrowds.

So, working with blogs and wikis and PredictionMarkets, and other mediums. – SamRose

The other page, I think, was OrganizedInquiry. I’m happy to discuss it here! Feel free to copy it here, if you like, or just make a local version.

  • What is required to try this out?
  • Can it meaningfully be done with less than 10 people?
  • Can we motivate some group of people to try this out?
  • Can we flesh out the vision, with some different concepts of how it might work out?
    • (perhaps write some supporting fiction, imagined scenarios)
  • How else might we support this idea, if we aren’t committed to enacting it ourselves?

– LionKimbro

Lion, yes! OrganizedInquiry was it!

I am personally very committed to enacting and supporting this idea over time, it is very much in sync with some ideas that I have thrown out there, but that never gained a lot of traction on their own.

Here’s an idea:

  • An OrganizedInquiry wiki/blog site as a central aggregation place

How individuals and communities can contribute: CollectiveIntelligence branch of Inquiry

This branch is where exploration, discussion, and knowledge creation is done in the open, and thus can be influenced by group pressures. But, group approval, and recognition for usefulness of contribution is a reward, generally.

  • GridBlogging: http://www.smartmobs.com/archive/2005/10/24/whither_gridbl.html we organize a grid blog about the inquiry, and invite people to blog about it over a certain period of days or weeks, and to tag their blog posting in whatever tagging space they prefer usig a special unique tag for the inquiry. Then we track that rss feed for that tag from each tagging service.
  • SocialBookmarking speaking of tagging, we can also have people tagging items that are related to the inquiry in SocialBookmarking sites, and ask them to make a little not aboue the relavance
  • Wiki: Wiki communities can write a high quality page with a certain name, collecting insights from their own knowledge base. This page is their collective submission to the inquiry. This could include many different types of wiki community: Knowledge collectors like Wikipedia, debate communities, communities with expertise in different areas, etc.
  • Others: Mailing list communities, forums, other emerging online and even offline communities.
  • Teleconference summaries: Voice, video, and face-to-face conferences can also contribute, prefarrably with a recording or transcript, or at least a summary of discussion.
  • IRC, Chats, Tings Why not?

On the OrganizedInquiry wiki itself, designated summarizing people, and anyone else interested, are then summarizing all of that into a page or pages about the inquiry.

How individuals and communities can contribute: WisdomOfCrowds branch of Inquiry

This branch is intended to make group pressure less of a factor, and is intended to effectively aggregate the knowledge of a diverse group of individuals who are generally working seperately. There may be some connection, but individuals may remain anonymous here. Anonymity is not always possible in the CollectiveIntelligence branch.

  • Ask people to submit to an online DelphiMethod survey (see Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_method), though not just for forecasting. Instead, where people privately give their concise summarized thoughts, perhaps via a web form? Would be interesting to make a DelphiEngine, that can allow for anonymizing between rounds of replies, and allow for users to modify their replies after receiving anonymous feedback. will look into seeing if this already exists in some form. This way, everyone starts out by creating a hypotheses, then these hypotheses distributed to the group for replies, then feedback is geven on replies, then replies are revised, etc, as in the normal Delphi method. Nobody knows who anyone else is.
  • In some cases, it is possible for people just to submit their answer to a question, and then aggregate those answers. Especially good for quanitfying questions (eg “how many jelly beans in this jar? etc). This could also be seen as a form of blind polling.
  • Invite people to participate in a PredictionMarket, when and if questions are appropriate for a prediction market. Right now, I have two methods of setting up a PredictionMarket. One is on my own server (still working out the bugs), the other is through Inkling markets, which we can use immediately. Preferrably, we cn eventually use the system set up on my server, since it is OpenSource. This branch of inquiry could be integrated by incorporating the results of the market closing.

So, curious to see what others think about all of this. The idea is to develop techniques to systematically incorporate all of this.

Integrating, Aggregating, Making it Useful

Wikis, Tings, talks, discussions etc, between the team of people who aggregate it all. They will likely develop processes. A wiki page can link to all of the sources, to tie them all together. People can continue to grow an inquiry over time, in an ongoing way, from all sources. Although it will likely get disjointed if it is not tended to. Eventually, it might become possible to make the growing more cybernetic. – SamRose (did TransClusion of this page to OrganizedInquiry discussion, just in case anyone comes across and is interested in this)

Discussion

I share the enthusiasm, and I have a ton of ideas: establishing code-points for questions, for cross-comparison, generating maps of discussions and discussion points, for cross-comparison, standardizing languages.

But I want to ask:

  • What question are we answering?
  • What are we trying to do here?
  • What should we be asking ourselves now?
  • What is trying to emerge here, and what is it within our capacity to bring it out?

I can contribute an hour a day (or more) to this discussion, but I want to know something about what we’re doing.

– LionKimbro

Here are my own thoughts on the above questions:

“What question are we answering?”

To play Jeopardy: “What interesting ideas have we collected so far, about OrganizedInquiry?” I feel like we come with these bags of ideas, and we’re putting them on the table, trying to figure out how to put them together, and so on.

“What are we trying to do here?”

I think this is unanswered at the moment. For myself, I think I’m asking, “What could we do here?”

“What should we be asking ourselves now?”

I don’t know; At the spur of the moment, I’m thinking: “What can we do here, with limited time commitment?” I think there are some things we could do here– I think we could perform a miniature inquiry here, and get something interesting and useful out of it. Perhaps we could make an inquiry around: “What is the territory of Organized Inquiry? What are the kinds of questions that are addressed, when people perform an organized inquiry? What kinds of organized inquiries are we interested in, and not interested in? What are the ideas that are considered, when considering organized inquiry?” This is something I think we could make some rough maps on, and that could be useful to people who follow in interest, after our wills have moved us to something else.

Jeapordy again, on the above – so it was: “What can we do here, with limited time commitment?” What other answers to that question are there?

“What is trying to emerge here, and what is it within our capacity to bring it out?”

Ah, the question of capacity strikes again. I think what is trying to emerge here is “Organized Inquiry,” so that people can come together, and discover new things and advance the art, building deeper answers than surface q-a, responding-to-immediate news, produces. So that we can really collect intelligence and so on.

So, in a paragraph summary:

Lion asks, “What can we usefully do here, with limited time commitment?”, and Lion offers up “Construct a map of ideas and questions,” as a possibility.

– LionKimbro

I have another idea - instead of querrying everyone and then aggregating the answers how about using the software for intelligently dispaching the questions to people who are likely to know the answers. Or even to create some real time brainstorming sessions between the right persons? – ZbigniewLukasiak

Zby: I think that in the short term, that just to demonstrate the validity of OrganizedInquiry, it will be mostly manual. But, your suggestion seems like a logical next step, for sure.

Lion: I agree, let’s construct the map of ideas and questions.

So, maybe there are (feel free to refactor):

Maps

Question Map

MetaQuestion

  • “What are we trying to do here?”
  • “What is trying to emerge here?”
  • “What is the territory of Organized Inquiry?
  • “What are the kinds of questions that are addressed, when people perform an organized inquiry?”
  • “What are the ideas that are considered, when considering organized inquiry?”

IntraGroup Questions (questions for our group here and now)

  • “What should we be asking ourselves now?”
    • “What can we do here, with limited time commitment?” (here being, in this wiki, SamRose think this is what this means).
      • LionKimbro:“I think there are some things we could do here– I think we could perform a miniature inquiry here, and get something interesting and useful out of it.”
    • “What kinds of organized inquiries are we interested in, and not interested in?”

About OrganizedInquiry:Idea Map

  • “What interesting ideas have we collected so far, about OrganizedInquiry?”

Idea Map

Automating the processes

  • instead of querrying everyone and then aggregating the answers how about using the software for intelligently dispaching the questions to people who are likely to know the answers. Or even to create some real time brainstorming sessions between the right persons? – ZbigniewLukasiak

Tying together many groups/communities/individuals

  • * An OrganizedInquiry wiki/blog site as a central aggregation place

How individuals and communities can contribute: CollectiveIntelligence branch of Inquiry

This branch is where exploration, discussion, and knowledge creation is done in the open, and thus can be influenced by group pressures. But, group approval, and recognition for usefulness of contribution is a reward, generally.

  • GridBlogging: http://www.smartmobs.com/archive/2005/10/24/whither_gridbl.html we organize a grid blog about the inquiry, and invite people to blog about it over a certain period of days or weeks, and to tag their blog posting in whatever tagging space they prefer usig a special unique tag for the inquiry. Then we track that rss feed for that tag from each tagging service.
  • SocialBookmarking speaking of tagging, we can also have people tagging items that are related to the inquiry in SocialBookmarking sites, and ask them to make a little not aboue the relavance
  • Wiki: Wiki communities can write a high quality page with a certain name, collecting insights from their own knowledge base. This page is their collective submission to the inquiry. This could include many different types of wiki community: Knowledge collectors like Wikipedia, debate communities, communities with expertise in different areas, etc.
  • Others: Mailing list communities, forums, other emerging online and even offline communities.
  • Teleconference summaries: Voice, video, and face-to-face conferences can also contribute, prefarrably with a recording or transcript, or at least a summary of discussion.
  • IRC, Chats, Tings Why not?

On the OrganizedInquiry wiki itself, designated summarizing people, and anyone else interested, are then summarizing all of that into a page or pages about the inquiry.

How individuals and communities can contribute: WisdomOfCrowds branch of Inquiry

This branch is intended to make group pressure less of a factor, and is intended to effectively aggregate the knowledge of a diverse group of individuals who are generally working seperately. There may be some connection, but individuals may remain anonymous here. Anonymity is not always possible in the CollectiveIntelligence branch.

  • Ask people to submit to an online DelphiMethod survery (see Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_method), though not just for forecasting. Instead, where people privately give their concise summarized thoughts, perhaps via a web form? Would be interesting to make a DelphiEngine, that can allow for anonymizing between rounds of replies, and allow for users to modify their replies after receiving anonymous feedback. will look into seeing if this already exists in some form. This way, everyone starts out by creating a hypotheses, then these hypotheses distributed to the group for replies, then feedback is geven on replies, then replies are revised, etc, as in the normal Delphi method. Nobody knows who anyone else is.
  • In some cases, it is possible for people just to submit their answer to a question, adn then aggregate those answers. Especially good for quanitfying questions (eg “how many jelly beans in this jar? etc). This could also be seen as a form of blind polling.
  • Invite people to participate in a PredictionMarket, when and if questions are appropriate for a prediction market. Right now, I have two methods of setting up a PredictionMarket. One is on my own server (still working out the bugs), the other is through Inkling markets, which we can use immediately. Preferrably, we cn eventually use the system set up on my server, since it is OpenSource. This branch of inquiry could be integrated by incorporating the results of the market closing.

So, curious to see what others think about all of this. The idea is to develop techniques to systematically incorporate all of this.

Integrating, Aggregating, Making it Useful

Wikis, Tings, talks, discussions etc, between the team of people who aggregate it all. They will likely develop processes. A wiki page can link to all of the sources, to tie them all together. People can continue to grow an inquiry over time, in an ongoing way, from all sources. Although it will likely get disjointed if it is not tended to. Eventually, it might become possible to make the growing more cybernetic. – SamRose (did TransClusion of this page to OrganizedInquiry discussion, just in case anyone comes across and is interested in this) – SamRose

  • … (Lion’s ideas, or others)

That is just my quick attempt to start a map that we can move elsewhere. Don’t hesitate to edit it mercilessly (or get rid of it), if the spirit moves you to do so :) Mostly, I am just try to break my bad habit of just leaving comments in our wiki communities, and trying to make my comments somehow useful towards DocumentMode pages. – SamRose

I’d like to propose:

  • That we move discussion to a new page, “OrganizedInquiry,”
    • the page serves as the central hub for our documents,
    • the page serves to hold general talk in our project, that isn’t more appropriately in some specific page,
    • the page introduces (briefly,) what we’re trying to do here.
      • make a map of the territory of Organized Inquiry
      • “What are we trying to do here?” needs clear articulation, I think;
      • Our time expectations may need limit as well: 1-2 months? 2007-04-01? 2007-05-01?
  • That we ask someone to be the PageMaintainer for that page.
  • That we ask someone to facilitate the inquiry as a whole.

I nominate Sam Rose to be the PageMaintainer, and to facilitate the inquiry, though I’d be happy with any of us who do this. SamRose started this page though, and he’s clearly passionate about this.

We may want to articulate a little more on: “What are some specific artifacts we might like to see come out of this?”

I’d like to write a little more on that, specifically, in a bit here. (Sakura just got home, though, and is begging me to play Wii tennis with her.) :)


Wow - I’m trying to digest all of this. A sample inquiry might be the best approach. Perhaps we can do a simple/sample inquiry around an unrelated topic (geese, wii tennis, alarm clocks, whatever) so that our terminology doesn’t get muddled with our analysis. Reading the above info, frankly, is a bit of a mind-bender. As we begin to explore, we can recommend different methods in-context (as sideline comments) for addressing the inquiry (e.g. here’s a great place for prediction markets!)

- KeithHopper

Lion, I am multi-tasking on a bunch of stuff today, including this. But just wanted to pop in and say yes, I will definitely be PageMaintainer, will definitely move to local OrganizedInquiry, and will definitely work in everyone’s input. And, I think the timeline is good, too. Maybe once we answer our questions, and map this out a bit, then we can add some ProjectManagement -style info to the page for our small scale testing, like we are testing, possibly declaring milestones, who’s involved, etc.? It won’t break my heart if don’t do that, of course. But, I am just thinking about this in terms of how a new person coming along might engage or help this out, or a least easily understand where we are in our processes.

Anyway, Lion, for what you write above, yes indeed, I am working on that immediately.

Kieth, yes, you’re right, we’ll probably have to reel it in a bit, and progress in steps that we can test as we go. Start out with something that we can do here and now, as Lion’s suggested. Will update soon. – SamRose

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