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2006-12-05 AboutThisWiki

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Pages or not Pages?

That is here the question.

Thread about different issues of making the day-page-sand-wiki work

MattisManzel, 2006-12-04: Just started and already in a dilemma: Shall I keep the appendix “Pages” to the mother-page of a day-page set? How “useful” is “Pages” seen from a coder’s mind? I can’t tell, I can’t program.

The appendix “Pages” identifies a wiki-page as the mother-page of a day-page set. If “Pages” is the last word of the CamelCase-title of the page (the one in the upper right) then it contains day-pages that have the first part of the CamelCase-title (what’s written before “Pages”) as the last part (what written behind the date) separated by _ an underscore.

Example: TalkPages is a day-page set (because “Pages” is the last word of the title). Thus it contains day-pages of the type: D-A-T-E_Talk, example: 2006-12-04 Talk (this page, :P - The underscore isn’t displayed in read-node).

I’m not sure whether to keep the appendix. Many pages on this wiki will be mother-pages for day-page sets. So they would all have a weird “Pages” attached. That might look silly and seem to make little sense.

The alternative would be no appendix: Talk (just realizing that I can forward it to TalkPages).

Something seems to be useful about the appendix though. I slightly tend to keep it.

I had to use the day-page for tomorrow to start this thread. Only one new thread per day. It causes a tolerable imprecision, I guess. Tomorrow comes earlier than we all think, anyhow ;)

Mattis: The “Collection” action makes it possible to have multiple threads intersect in a Date page. – Hans

MattisManzel: I’ll check that out and will dive into Alex extention Wunderkiste. thanks for the hint. At the moment I’m still in the mind-drifting phase, birdy-style, the banner has a scent of the beginning of 2001 - space odyssey, hasn’t it? Later I’ll go over to the mole-phase, I guess. :)

later: What is this? (question posed still from bird’s perspective). I’m not quite sure yet.

lemme report some things I “see” from my curent bird’s position

Grr, I’m stuck with the terminology. It ocurrs to me:

Checking terminology for my self: date-page, day-page. Thread-pages and journal-pages have mother-pages and are day-pages. A mother-page is either a journal-mother-page or a thread-mother-page. I might be overcomplicated, possible.

What’s the intention here? Well, wiki-pages don’t get shorter usually. Communication, knowledge accumulates on wiki. We have pages on community-wiki that easily reach down to the desk of your neighbor two floors below, we have pages that are very long, I mean. The hot zones on these pages are above in the document-mode (in an insufficient degree, we’re not refactoring enough, why?) and down on the desk of your neighbor two floors below where the current discussion is located. In between there are mostly overcome discussions from a year ago or so. This will get worse as contents is added.

Tada! - metaphor:
We are perl-fishers and we gather perls to put them up on top in the document mode. We are diving and carry the perls up to the surface. But the shells are on the bottom of sea, far too deep for geeks like us to dive. What I propose is constructing a floating grid, nice and solid positioned some 4 or 5 meters under the surface of our WikiOcean? - we can easily dive that deep - and we grow the shells there.
We can here and now let the shells that we have harvested the perls from and these not containing any perls let fall through the grid by starting a new thread. The remains will sink down to the ground, to the deep, deep dark ground of infinitely being forgotten, down to that muddy ground where nowadays the discussion takes place. Not nice the metaphor? ;)

Gotta scan the dragon I’ve drawn for Sakura yesterday, when I dropped out of the ting. Sorry lion and sheep, it wasn’t my best performance. I was too overloaded with wiki-net ideas.
Scanning now. Scanner doesn’t work. Taking picture. Negative, me too stupid at the moment.

I made day-page sets.

2006-12-19

MattisManzel: I’m testing =collect

http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/DayPageSandWiki?action=collect;match=Pages

http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/DayPageSandWiki?action=collect;match=Pages$

http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/DayPageSandWiki?action=collect;match=2006-12-04

Works fine. I made date-pages only / changes and mother-pages only / changes on DayPageSets.

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