Summary: I doubt reCaptcha will provide better results; ma: my view on the recent spam situation, whoisi
< my view on the recent spam situation
> my view on the recent spam situation, whoisi
> http://whoisi.com unfortunately doesn't exist anymore. It used a two word captcha as far as I remember.
I’m wondering whether I should FishBowl this wiki and move it to some archive. What do you think? Is it worth keeping it open? The name is costing 1€/month with is not a lot, but given the low signal level, the SignalToNoise (spam) ratio is not too cool. Let me know.
I’m a bit of a pack rat, and I do refer to this wiki quite a bit more than I now post to it. For these reasons, and a few others, I’d be sad to see it go.
As a matter of fact, I’ve been thinking of asking if you’d like to link it into a “Not For Profit” foundation that I’m setting up. My objectives in thinking about this are…
Hm, interesting. I guess there’s value in keeping the URLs and content around. But it wouldn’t have to be a wiki – it could all end up being static pages, I guess. But perhaps you’re right. I might consider the value not too great – I haven’t referred to any of the pages in a long time – but if there’s value to some, perhaps we should be thinking about keeping responsibility where value is perceived. I guess there’s NonMonentaryCostOfOwnership? associated with a wiki: Checking RecentChanges, despamming, domain name renewal process, software upgrades, that kind of thing. So for some value of “link it into”, the foundation sounds like an interesting idea.
I must think about the WikiLifeCycle some more.
FWIW, I vote for keeping it as a wiki (maybe only editable by some at least?). I still refer to it quite a bit.
Hm, interesting. No problem, we’ll keep it running. I wonder we wrote about this before… Something about showing popular pages? Basically I want to know whether CW is being “used"… I’m not sure the list of Referrers can answer that.
I, like Sam, would appreciate having the wiki function preserved. In fact, for quite some time now, I’ve been wanting to have one of my servers replicate the “bliki” functionality since I think it would meet the needs of several of our clients to be able to manage the “second level” of sub-wikis as a set of collaborating Groups. This would be especially useful if some of the additional (business enterprise) privacy needs can be set up via a module like the quick “hack” that Bob Trower developed for us.
The only impediment that has prevented this from being done during the past couple of years is that my Admins are predominantly WinTel? types that are extremely reluctant to learn even the simplest LAMP tricks. As a result I’ve been sneak towards a LAMP infrastructure in millimeter by millimeter. Now, with AdManCa? Foundation coming on line, I have an opportunity to simply “slam” a solution into place that could easily look after all of these needs (and more). At the very least, I’d be happy to have AdManCa? “mirror” CW in order to provide some redundancy. After all, I feel a bit of a need to PayItForward?.
To - exceptionally - apply a bit of wikipedia-culture here: keep.
I haven’t heard much noise, but perhaps Alex sees spam traffic that I do not, ..?
As for the spam: I don’t see a lot of spam in edits per month, but the ratio of spam to ham edits is relatively high, I feel – because nobody is actively writing on Community Wiki. Well, I’m happy to learn that people still refer to Community Wiki, so that’s cool.
Just to let you all know, I’ve not been adding all the recent spam just to make a point!
Hi Alex. #Thanks:1 for keeping
Keep. Consider implementing a better captcha? A two word reCaptcha might discourage the spammers…
I’m not sure whether that would make a difference. Do you think the current spammers are posting automatically? It seems to me that they are in fact humans answering the question. If I replace the current captcha with reCaptcha, they’ll just keep answering it. Unless I also require people to answer a captcha for every edit. Ugh, that would pull usability down I fear. I think that BannedContent (which contains regular expressions matching URLs) is our best bet. Is reCaptcha still used to help digitize old books? At least the spammer’s energies would help do some good.
my view on the recent spam situation, whoisi
SamRose applied the spam protection to the WikiNet wikis on his servers two years ago or so. We said “Bye spammers” in a talk post and eversince it’s quite. No spam at all. I haven’t been watching community-wiki (no LocalNames here currently, I know ) much lately. But a few days ago I was proud to revert a dozen or two obviously manually spammed pages in this wiki - the spammer took 12 minutes - in two minutes.
That feels good, Alex!
http://whoisi.com unfortunately doesn’t exist anymore. It used a two word captcha as far as I remember.