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<description>&lt;p&gt;Amit Patel writes about the &lt;a class="url http outside" href="http://amitp.blogspot.com/2012/02/unstructured-to-structured.html"&gt;move from unstructured to structured information&lt;/a&gt;. He says he loved to start writing in an unstructured environment such as Google Wave, work, comment, threads â but at the very end it was hard to move towards a structured set of documents:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;dl class="quote"&gt;&lt;dt /&gt;&lt;dd&gt;I want a tool that lets me hold unstructured conversations, then extract portions of conversations that led to a task, and move them into my task tracking tool. Unstructured comes first for me; structure is what I add later, once I understand what structure I want. Databases and most structured tools I use get this wrong â they ask me to decide the structure first. Spreadsheets, Wikis, Wave, and most unstructured tools also get this wrong â they let me easily work without structure, but donât offer me a transition to something structured. &amp;#x2013; Amit Patel &lt;a class="url http number" href="http://amitp.blogspot.com/2012/02/unstructured-to-structured.html"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="bracket"&gt;[&lt;/span&gt;1&lt;span class="bracket"&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;p&gt;Alex commented on the page and said: As a wiki developer I&amp;#x2019;m interested in this how to move unstructured page content into a structure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He came up with a few use-cases:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;A page full of brainstorming, thread mode stuff, interjections. You&amp;#x2019;d like to select a region on the page, pick &amp;#x201c;Copy to new pageâ¦&amp;#x201d; from a context menu, type a new name and do it.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;One a page, you&amp;#x2019;d like to tag a page without having to edit it.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;You&amp;#x2019;d one page with a hierarchical list of links to server as an outline. On any page, you have a link that allows you to look at this outline and use checkboxes (or radiobuttons?) to select where in the outline this particular page belongs.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;I started to think of things I use that are already somewhat there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wrote &lt;a class="url http outside" href="http://campaignwiki.org/add-link"&gt;a front-end for a wiki that essentially collects bookmarks&lt;/a&gt;. Note the link to a bookmarklet and the source code at the bottom. Take a look at the &lt;a class="url http outside" href="http://campaignwiki.org/wiki/LinksToWisdom/HomePage"&gt;actual wiki collecting all these links&lt;/a&gt;. Note how the links on its HomePage and the unordered lists on the linked pages define the outline that is shown by the add-link script. Note that the wiki can be told to reassemble all these top-level pages, too. (Look for the &amp;#x201c;All In One&amp;#x201d; page.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What do you thinkâis this a way out of the impasse?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;People keep saying &amp;#x201c;reworking is hard&amp;#x201d; (&amp;#x2192;&amp;#x00a0;&lt;a class="local" href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/LackOfReworking"&gt;LackOfReworking&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="local" href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/AttackTheDocumentMode"&gt;AttackTheDocumentMode&lt;/a&gt;). And it is. People don&amp;#x2019;t do it. But imagine people trying to &amp;#x201c;rework&amp;#x201d; a conversation they&amp;#x2019;re having. Nobody does this! People sometimes &amp;#x201c;rework&amp;#x201d; conversations when they record interviews and rework those into articles to publish. But it&amp;#x2019;s rare compared to the gazillion of other forms of communications we have.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;#x2019;s think of some:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;People will &lt;b&gt;summarize&lt;/b&gt; &amp;#x2013; and selecting parts of a page and saving it under a new name supports that. There&amp;#x2019;s an unsolved problem, unfortunately. The summary doesn&amp;#x2019;t belong to the &lt;a class="local" href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/LinkLanguage"&gt;LinkLanguage&lt;/a&gt;, since the old, messy page gets to keep the page name. Perhaps our support for summarizing should move the current page to the discussion page and just keep the summary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;People will &lt;b&gt;reorder&lt;/b&gt; information &amp;#x2013; and moving pages to nodes on an outline supports that. The page itself remains untouched, of course. All we&amp;#x2019;re doing is putting a link into the appropriate nested list.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;People will &lt;b&gt;categorize&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;People will &lt;b&gt;subscribe&lt;/b&gt; (or &amp;#x201c;follow&amp;#x201d;, or mark in some way to stay abreast)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;People will &lt;b&gt;share&lt;/b&gt; in a broadcasting way (think of &amp;#x201c;retweeting&amp;#x201d; etc).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="permanentanchor"&gt;WikipediaRefactoring&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In &lt;a class="local" href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/WikiPedia"&gt;WikiPedia&lt;/a&gt;, refactoring can be frequent, especially on pages where many people want to control the narrative. Or. where rules tend to dictate a structure. &lt;a class="local" href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/WikiPedia"&gt;WikiPedia&lt;/a&gt; appears to be a rare exception among wiki sites, however.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="permanentanchor"&gt;WhyLackOfRefactoring&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why does it happen? Why is refactoring not common in wikis?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do people see the activity as a &amp;#x201c;defecting&amp;#x201d; in cooperation dynamics? (meaning, do people see refactoring your work as a non-cooperative activity, and leaving your contribution/&amp;#x201c;voice&amp;#x201d; intact as a cooperative approach?). Do people need &lt;strong&gt;permission&lt;/strong&gt; to change contents of wikis, in order to feel &amp;#x201c;ok&amp;#x201d; doing it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is there a way to set a recurring example, where at least 3 or more people consistently refactor as a primary activity?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="local" href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/StructureOfWikis"&gt;Learn more...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="url http outside" href="http://plus.google.com/"&gt;Google+&lt;/a&gt; is a &lt;i&gt;social networking&lt;/i&gt; application on the web.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="local" href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/GooglePlus"&gt;Learn more...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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