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WikiFeatures

[en] A wiki on our NearMap.
[fr] Un wiki sur notre CarteDeProximité

http://wikifeatures.wiki.taoriver.net/

Discussion

Sorry about the ShallowPage, but I think it's wrong that we consider WikiFeatures a near site, yet a link to WikiFeatures goes to a separate page on MeatBall

I'm of the opinion that we should move our WikiTechnology discussion to there whenever possible.

I'd much prefer to keep Wiki Features a place where we put reference-style information, but discuss ideas here. When discussion dies down, we can put a document on Wiki Features and start linking it. As if CommunityWiki was the place were we toss ideas around, and WikiFeatures was the place the stuff eventually ends up in. That means that the reworking of wiki feature pages is a three stage process:

  1. Describe idea, discuss, explore, first implementation, experiences
  2. As we describe our implementations, we start refactoring part of the page into document mode at the top of the page
  3. As the page is structured, we start selectively copying information to Wiki Features, adapting to its style.

Stress copy.

I agree with Alex; WikiFeatures should have entries that are closer to finished.

Though, the conversations don't need to happen here. They can happen pretty much anywhere. WikiFeatures pages currently link to all kinds of places.

But for our purposes, here.

Then we point WikiFeatures back out to the communities where people talk about the particular feature.

The "licenses" on the TaoRiverWiki? are PD.

Have I mentioned before that CopyLeft licenses for wiki text really bothers me? ;) heh

Reason being that I want to be able to copy and paste from just about any wiki to just about any other wiki. <sigh> I really don't understand what we're trying to protect ourselves from, by making it CopyLeft rather than PublicDomain. I mean, where are the EvilCorporations? stealing wiki text?

I need to think about this, but will probably bow to pressure. :(

I'd prefer public domain too. But I don't see what there is to be done about it. Convince CommunityWiki to StartAgain with PublicDomain (fine with me, but I doubt it'll fly; you want to, guys?)? Start a forth forum (MeatballWiki, OpenMeatballWiki, CommunityWiki, PublicDomainCommunityWiki?) (seems excessive; besides, I, at least, am too tired)? Add another special licensing provision to the CommunityWiki license (fine with me; and I still say that we should at least add a "..and Alex can expand this license in the future" clause to it to allow for flexibility)?

I see your point. What can we do?

Yeah, I totally believe in the benevolent dictator "expand the license" ability. Especially since we're just a group of people, rather than a particular cause or what not.

One thing we could do, is, before working on a wiki feature here, say: "This stuff is PD. Please don't write here, unless you intend it to be PD." It's not very official, but- well, we're not exactly contributing to the Linux kernel here. ;) I don't know.

I'd be interested in hearing what others say.

Another thing we could do, is just share-alike the pages that we move over there from here. That'd be fine by me as well.

Status?

What's the canonical link, now? There's the old Moin installation, and there's a new Oddmuse installation on OddWiki. Which one is it going to be?

Plus: I've started to write an Oddmuse:Moin Markup Extension which might facilitate the migration. It still lacks a lot of features, but maybe the migration of Wiki Features might be a good incentive.

I don't know. :/


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